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Post by dragonmenta on Feb 11, 2006 4:45:07 GMT -5
.............I've always wanted to know about, they pop into my head fro mtime to time and i go hmm...maybe some of you can shed some light on this. 1. Honorific Contractions have always been a bit of a bugger. are they picked by the dragon(which i think is how we play it here) or by the rider? Also do they have to even resemble the candidates original name. For example ,our are always just a contractiuon of the birht name but in Dragonseye: A boy went from Thomas to S'mon jsut because he felt like it...hunh? 2. Green Flights! According to the Webbie, there are about 100 riders, 400 or so of which would be greenriders. Adding to the fact that they rise fairly often, wouldnt; that make for several green flights a day. Would they get in eachothers way? How often does that disturb training and drills? i know this would never ever happen But ould the guys ever get tired of it...chasing and chasing and chasing and therfore are most of the flights closed so only permement weyrmates are in the flight...etc...sry i just got carried away 3. If there are supposedly so many weyrling deaths, then why aren't they ever really mentioned or made big deal of? Having many young people die seemes liek somethig nthat could really be stressed and moaned about to me. I'll have more later....lol Feel free to post your own burnign questions. Pern is full of mystereies and contradictiosn so soemtimes its nice to try and sort them out.
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Post by Memorie on Feb 11, 2006 10:47:58 GMT -5
Well, the honorific contractions here on this site are chosen by the Queen's owner. So Dizzy will be picking Orfinion's contraction if he Impresses. *hopes it doesn't come out O'nion* But his dragon will sya his name, and that's how you'll know...so yes, I suppose they are picked by the dragon. On the board. I haven't read one of McCaffrey's hatchings for a mo', so I'm not sure about that.
I never read Dragonseye *ought to*, so I dunno. But if it was set early enough, at least as early as or earlier than Second Pass Pern, then it's possible for Thomas to go to S'mon if he feels it, because he may be trying to get away from a Terran name. That's what Peter Tubberman did in First Pass Pern-- he went to Purman. And besides, S'mon isn't too different from Thomas, and that'd be a hard name to honor. T'mas? T'oma? Eh, who knows.
Greens rise every five to eight months. Factor in that greens are born at different times and in different clutches and matured faster than Queens, and there's bound to be a few days open where there are no greenflights. Occasionally, they would have to get in each others' way, but also factor in how manificently huge a Weyr is, and then just the feeding grounds alone. They'd be able to make it. It would probably upset a fair amount of drills, seeing as when a green flies, blues and browns, and a few bronzes are forced to follow. I imagine a fair amount are closed, yes.
The reason Weyrling deaths are so many and yet are not so mourned or talked about is because everyone is desensitized to them as a fact of life. So many have happened that it causes a few sad moments, but everyone learns to get on with their lives. There are a lot of dangers to being a rider, and that's just one of them. It's the same basic principle with Thread scores. They happen so often that you just get some numbweed slapped ovre it and told to go away. And if you whine about it, ya look like a little babeh! lol
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Post by dragonmenta on Feb 11, 2006 10:56:15 GMT -5
wow...you got this thing sorted out...thankyou a ton. lol...Orfinion's dad is O'mion...so O'nion would be just a little repetitive for me as well. lol...i'd just be pleased to Impress anyways, already having Zylaera Impress Carseith xD you know your pern well *gives Mem special, know it all award*
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Post by Memorie on Feb 11, 2006 10:59:04 GMT -5
*accepts the award like she's at the Grammy's*
I'd like to thank meh mum, who nurtured my love for reading and books, and then, of course, my good friend Menta, because without her questions, I'd've never made it this far...uhm, yeah, West Side to all my homies *orchestra music starts playing* Damn...ok, thanks!
Yeah, Congrats on Zylaera's Impression, BTW
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Post by Dizzy on Feb 13, 2006 18:06:27 GMT -5
Thomas does change his name in Dragon'sEye, but in Dragon'sDawn it was the dragons doing all the shortin' and the same goes for most of the other books. so... meh it is just one of those little Gaps in Anne's story i am thinkin. as to the rest. Mem did a really good job explaining.
by way Onion does sound pretty good *grins.
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Post by Memorie on Feb 13, 2006 18:23:46 GMT -5
*gestures to herself*
Moi? Me? I did a good job? *grins triumphantly* Thanks Dizzy!
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Post by Dizzy on Feb 13, 2006 18:34:16 GMT -5
your welcome... don't push it though
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Post by didster7 on Feb 13, 2006 19:22:33 GMT -5
Lmfao, O'nion, I hope if he impresses that his dragons name isn't Breath, Onion Breath. ;D ;D
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Post by hrsegrl245 on Feb 13, 2006 23:55:18 GMT -5
lol...that would be funny.
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Post by dragonmenta on Feb 14, 2006 9:14:48 GMT -5
i haven't checked this thread for a while and suddenly i come back and your all makign fun of my charrie ...jk lol I would just stress, if that happend that it was Oh'nion not Uh'nion ...he's a crybaby enough as it is.
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Post by hrsegrl245 on Feb 14, 2006 11:45:16 GMT -5
lol...Oh neon...hahahahhahhaahha
poor Orfinion...Or'ion would be like the constellation...
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Post by shawncameron on Feb 14, 2006 12:26:46 GMT -5
Lol… I love you guys you are so funny… Onion… wow
1. But anyway I have to agree with dizzy on some of the gaps because in…. (damn now I can’t remember the name of the story… Anyway) the older riders ask one of the newly impressed weyrlings what they want to shorten there name to, there where a few options and the kid picked one.
And the names aren’t shortened because you’re a dragonrider so much as because you fight thread, the names where shortened to make calling out orders easier and faster. they where a man made change. Though in RP it is easier in some ways to have the dragon do it.
2. Yeah green flights!! I love green flights *evil grin* anyway Math! I also like math lets do some! (Sorry lots of coffee not a lot of sleep)
1000 dragons 400 greens (as an estimate.) 365 days in a year… Greens rise about 4 times in a year so 400 X 4 = 1600 WOW your right Menta that is a lot of flights…
But in the case of playing… I would agree with Memori and have some free days and go a head and have fun and stress green flights as they are… well… fun.
3. as for the last one… Memori hit the nail on the head, if I had read these sooner my answer would have been very, very similar, but she did such a good job I won’t bother repeating the answer.
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Post by dragonmenta on Feb 14, 2006 13:28:10 GMT -5
lol...y'all are so damn knowledgeable on the ways of the weyr
Or'ion's not that bad...he is starcrossed with Verity The best one ( isure picked a name with a ton of contractions) is O'fi (oh-fee) now wouldn't that be just wodnerful
oh just another point..i was rereading the Chronicles of Pern: First Fall, and several of the female riders are given contractions as well. I can't remember em off of the top of my head but they were used durign threadfall too. I guess the honorific's jus tstarted otu with a utilitarion purpose but became mroe of a symbol of rank and woman, for some effing reason, weren't included in the tradition.
This reminds me of some other thread that ended up in "Damn you Kitty Ping!"
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Post by Dizzy on Feb 14, 2006 14:37:05 GMT -5
it depends on the books... i stress... in Dragons Dawn, the Dragons are the ones that came up with the honorific and they didn't shorten the queenriders names out of respect.
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Post by shawncameron on Feb 14, 2006 18:11:51 GMT -5
I belive you dizz honest, I'm actualy on that one right now so when I get to that part I will see for my self but... I belive you we love you dizzy!!!!
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