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Post by hrsegrl245 on Feb 15, 2006 1:09:49 GMT -5
What about dragonriders we already have?
I mean why do I have to PNPC them... if I'm going to play them more actively than my other characters that may not be NPCs....that would defeat the purpose wouldn't it?
You can not restrict how often we rp our PNPCs...so they may become more active than our PC characters. I think this is going to increse the number of people who want gold dragons not necessarily the number who want browns and bronzes.... this is just my opinion...
Its all well and good for those fo you who have Golds...the rest of us are getting the shaft.
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Post by Dizzy on Feb 15, 2006 1:28:42 GMT -5
Because the Admins asked it of you for the good of the Board... the Game,
but if you want to get down to the how... well...we have post mins set up for certain ranks... all it takes is inforcing them, uping them putting in more for other colors, there are ways as long as a person's balls are big enough.
The reasons behind the changes... we aren't getting anywhere... we are sitting in limbo until all the ranks get filled...people want to rp out thread fall and finding a new weyr?... we have to have wings, active wings to fight and to run another weyr. right now... even if we pooled all of lateo and sodalis we wouldn't have a full pc wing... well i take that back we could have min of 12 up but who wants to reassign?
As far as gold... and getting the shaft, Who wants Kyparla, they can have her. I'll play D'lyn.
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Post by Memorie on Feb 15, 2006 1:35:34 GMT -5
Ha! I have dragons of all colors except brown--which is fine, because I have a bronze! So, am I getting doubly-"shafted?"
We're not saying you can't play the lesser colors whenever you want. We just are trying to get people to pay more attention to rankers and high colors. We've got to get the board moving, and we're not doing that by hanging out with lesser riders who can't do anything.
As far as golds, Effluo doesn't even have one. At all. And she's all about this plan. Sorry, but like Diz basically said, this is how it is.
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Post by hrsegrl245 on Feb 15, 2006 1:37:29 GMT -5
I am not a fan of Golds myself...
I am just trying to point out some issues... sorry if it came across as rude. I just am having a hard time reconciling myself to the idea that all greens and blues have to be PNPC's
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Post by lyricalblue on Feb 15, 2006 1:44:51 GMT -5
I dunno, I understand why you are doing this... but I don't think it will help. In fact I think it is going to discourage a whole range of players. Instead of making them all PNPC'S why not just stress that people make ranking charas. If they already have a Blue or Green that is active and a favorite let them keep it. Frankly even in the books there are quite a few Blues and Greens who stand out. You could restrict the numbers of people joining with them or even say that no more are allowed in. But for goodness sakes don't make someone stop playing their favorite characters.
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Post by Dizzy on Feb 15, 2006 2:10:11 GMT -5
we aren't going to make them stop playing their fav chars, but we need certain posts done... and certain positions filled. we have had wing threads where no one has shown up and this is going to change. higher color threads come first, weyrduties come before play just as it would if this were a real life situation and as far as people playing rankers we need them. If the board doesn't move foreward then what is the point? Players might as well play full post over yahoo or msn im and save us a whole lot of work.
we are trying to redirect the focus of the board, and with the few numbers that we have... something drastic has to be done. As I stated in the memo, it is easier to NPC en masse a group of wingriders than it is to npc a Wingleader. I can't NPC out every ranking dragon in the Weyr and neither can E or Brit or Mem or Did. I know it is fun to have the green rider who is the vixen, or the goof off blue, but the board can't stand with just those chars.
Really... if we don't move in a time line at all... then what is the point of the board, hatchings and etc. I would kinda like to see us rp out thread fall within the next 2 or 3 ooc years, but at this rate it aint going to happen. We have a council meeting fixing to start... I think we might have 5 chars that are going to be there that aren't npc. that is pushing it.
I would love to play up Kyparla flirting w/ every hot bronze and brown around... i would love to have her soaking up rays, exploring, and etc... but right now. I am running a hatching for the good of the game. (i spent alot of time on this hatching as did E and Brit.) I gave up alot of free time and alot of free time for random posting w/ chars. I have a green rider that is prolly my fav char... because I have a ranker and the board comes first...((only thing that comes before is RL)) I don't play him save on special occasions.
I don't ask anyone to do something that I haven't already done.
What we are asking... make chars riding higher colors play them... use your lesser colors for filler in posts and when the storyline is taken care of then play those fav chars... if you try brown or bronze you might just find a new fav.
((we aren't asking for a vote, we spent two hrs or more discussing the issue and where we wanted to see the board go, this was the solution we agreed upon. as it goes right now... we are strechted too thin and something has to give.))
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Post by dragonmenta on Feb 15, 2006 8:23:03 GMT -5
well...thats too bad, since Zyalera JUST impressed, but i'll deal with it. Currently D'len is the only Weyrlingmaster spot take in Soidalis...so i woudl like to ask permission to play him full time, cause he has an important rank.
As far as my Golid and Bronzer go...well they were like my first to charries and i play them actively, i've made wing drill threads with L'kel and meetings with Maris. They haven't really gone anywhere but i'm trying.
Err...i'll prolly play Zyalera and Orfinion just as much as i always do...but i'll be super active (shall we say hyperactive) with Maris and L'kel. ((Is it ok if L'kel and Morelia finsih out their current arc though, we've been playing them for liek two full days of their lives straight and Naraleth is gona rise))
Basicly i have no problem with this...i do like rankers (although i have this trend of Junior, Second or Assistant)) And i woudl be more than willing to make a new Bronze or Brown, just say the word. Alright, i get i quailfy as annoying now but 1more question. Will i still be able to play out Maris's flight after the two year skip (if thats still happening) cause i've been looking forward to that.
xD, my annoying ramblingness over.
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Post by Memorie on Feb 15, 2006 12:28:07 GMT -5
Well, actually I just bumped up my PNPC Weyrling Master at Soda. to PC...so, D'len can truly be an assistant! ^_^
But yeah. We did spend two hours on this, and feelings were hurt, and we all pretty much got off the computer feeling tense...but it's for the best. It'll help the board get going, and I sure have never heard anyone complain about Impressing a brown or a bronze at a Hatching. Or about having a ranker. Ever.
And of course, we want you and Hrsegrl to finish your thread, Menta. We're not saying you can't have threads with them, and we're not limiting them, either. Hell, start a new one after this one...just start an important thread somewhere with a ranker. Show up for Drills. If you have a wingsecond at Lateo, and a few of you do, post there in the council room with Brit and Diz, because Wingseconds are included, as far as I know. We just want more focus on rankers, because they aren't getting a lot of love lately.
Look, it's gonna be fine. Okay?
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Post by dragonmenta on Feb 15, 2006 12:39:19 GMT -5
well, i was asking about that because instead of just one thread...Morelia and L'kel have had about 10 threads....but anyways, thx.
I have Maris in lateo...but in the council room...it says to wait until Kedenth calls the dragons and he hasn't done that yet. L'kel, my Wingsecond, is the other Bronze at Sodalis besides P'resh thats played alot. xDspeakign of which...it'd be fun to have them rp together..very different
Well...it all sounds to be working out to me. I'll think abotu mebe turning A'sero of Bronze Kaluth into a permanent charrie this weekend. xD this'll cretainly get our big plot goin'
speaking of Brown or Bronze impressions...*crosses figners for Orfinion*
Cognrats for making the tough choice <-*really means it, but feels like a suck up*
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oh and about the Sodalis Weyrlingmasters...i have 3 threads going for Weyrlings...the Weyrlingmaster is supposedly taking a day off...all tired out by the weyrligns and D'len is supervising. ((i wanted to get Calista etc. soemthig nto do and had to come up it hsoem lame excuse.)) You can prolly join in. You might also want to check otu the thread in this foru mabotu Sodalis Weyrligns. PM me if you have any questiosn or thigns you want to change about the Sodlais weyrling schedule.
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Post by britalia on Feb 15, 2006 12:42:00 GMT -5
I have agree with Dizz when she said we aren't asking you to do anything we haven't already. Mirroring what she said, I too had a wonderful character in Sanura, but when we created LW and K’var was to be Weyrleader she pretty much got put on the back burner. If any of you remember me from DR you’ll know I prolly played her more than I did any of my other characters, but now she’s in the shadows because she isn’t important to the overall progression on the board. We aren’t getting RID of your characters, just asking you put your higher rankers first, and then play the others in between.
And yes, it was tense, things were said and misunderstood, and trust me, if you guys were there, you'd know this decision wasn't made lightly.
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Post by E on Feb 15, 2006 12:55:24 GMT -5
Concidering we almost had one of our mods completely leave the board due to misunderstandings and high tensions from debate... yeah... definatly not a light topic nor an easy disision to make. I am truely hoping the switch of veiw won't be too hard... *crosses fingers*
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Post by dragonmenta on Feb 15, 2006 13:02:56 GMT -5
I think as long as his mainly means playing rankers more instead of don't paly non-rankers...i think it'll work out ok.
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Post by E on Feb 15, 2006 13:04:10 GMT -5
Yeah, thats the idea in a nutshell.
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Post by hrsegrl245 on Feb 15, 2006 14:37:40 GMT -5
((Just so you know I wasn't trying to be mean, even if it came across that way...I realize looking back I wrote it a bit, less than civil and I am sorry.))
My issue right now is I only have one adult rider...and she is green. My only high rankign character is a Holder and its hard to find people to rp in the North. (Thanks Cerinthe for creating a plotline with me.) I do have a Weyrlign bronze in the works, but he might not ever be a ranker. Do I have to make a bunch of ranking characters? I already have six characters, two are Weyrlings, two are candidates....so I'm just wondering, if I do have a female canididate at Sodalis, and women are not going to be impressing much anymore, and women won't be getting journeyman positions anymore, what am I supposed to do with her? She is a talented harper and should be able to achioeve a rank, but if she can't do anythign that will make her happy...I don't knwo if it will be worth rping her in the long run... If I ahd created her to be in the Lower Caverns her whole life that would be one thing but she was not intended to be a drudge or worker for the Weyr or Harper workshop.
Sorry abotu being longwinded, but I just wanted to know if you think that women may still eb getting some positions. If she doesn't impress I would liek her to be able to progress in the HArper craft.
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Post by Dizzy on Feb 15, 2006 17:23:21 GMT -5
i think it could be fun to play a woman struggling for recognition... it could lead to a heck of a story for her...
and yes, we would like for you to make an adult male rider, they don't ness have to have rank... but they do need to be a higher color. we really need those colors filled... rankers are prefered coming from peeps w/ more xp in roleplay.
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